"What is a moment or event in your life that has shaped who you are as a person now?"
"I worked as a attendant in a psychiatric ward in the 1960s. I didn't have very strong opinion of my own abilities and there was a head nurse there who basically saw I guess that I had some talents. And rather than just doing bed care, she kind of assigned me to talk to people and that was very influential in terms of having the career that I currently have."
"And what would that career be?"
"I'm a psychotherapist."